Arducopter Crash on auto after 2 successful auto flights.
Today I was playing with autonomous Takeoff.
First test was with remote, to see if everything is in order.
The second and third tests went full Auto without any RC control and were complete success.
Fourth test was supposed to be 1Km range flight test at 25m, but the quad-copter just went up, and crashed 70m from launch.
For me, it seems that possibly had mechanical failure on compass fastening (since it is away from apm2.5 because of the motor wiring and currents.)
Could someone check out my logs and verify? Problem is, that there is not much left of the copter to do after crash analysis of the fixture.
Here is the flight path of the crash:
Here is one flight before:
As can be seen from the pictures, something had to happen between these two flights.
Also attached the log from the crash.
EDIT: I did a stupid thing and did not re-check logs I attached. Fixed now.
Tags: 2.9, arducopter, auto, crash, mission, takeoff
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Crash.tlog, 560 KB
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Permalink Reply by Crashpilot1000 on -
Hi!
I2Cerror seems to go berserk, but i am not the LOG guy, maybe i misinterpret things.
Normally I2C errors occur, if a device is adressed but not found/responding. Perhaps it's a wiring problem with your external mag?
Cheers Kraut Rob
Ps.: My Condolences for your crash !
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Permalink Reply by Markus Järve on -
I am not able to find i2c errors from my logs... What line should i look it from?
Also, the crash is 50% my fault. Going to ignore rules, gotta be ready for consequences :). Well the location was remote enough for such playing.
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Permalink Reply by Crashpilot1000 on
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Hi Markus!
I did 2 screenshots. One is showing your I2C status, and an old log (2.8.1) from me.
You will see the difference....
Cheers
Kraut
Rob
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MyOld281Log.jpg, 259 KB
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DeveloperPermalink Reply by Randy on -
Markus,
I think that tlog is not from either of your crashes. It looks like a log of just a stabilize flight where it doesn't go anywhere. Maybe it was while it was sitting on your desk or something.
Certainly the compass is not working at all in that tlog. If you graph the xmag, ymag, zmag or mag_field you'll see they're all zero.
Sorry to hear about your crash.
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Permalink Reply by Markus Järve on
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I uploaded the logs. Some times head-desk is not enough.
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Permalink Reply by Markus Järve on
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As the correct crash logs were uploaded to original post I did a new check on my logs. The i2cerr is 0. I do not understand the reason for crash...
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Permalink Reply by Drone Savant on -
Best of luck in your hunt for answers... in the mean time enjoy this awesome tune from Queen.
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Permalink Reply by Crashpilot1000 on
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Hmm, Savants comment doesn't seem to be very constructive - but my comments are also sometimes crazy...
I tried to look at the logs
First of all your copter seems to have very little vibration. The deviation from the course is also correctly seen by apm. Somehow motor2 seems to have severe problems. The apm gave full throttle on motor2 to compensate without success. The only thing that happened was a dramatic increase of vibration and amp draw without stabilization. So my guess is, that the motor probably worked and your airscrew/motorshaft got loose/propeller broke on that motor displayed as nr. 2 in the logs?
Just my 2cents
Cheers Kraut Rob
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Permalink Reply by Markus Järve on
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When I un-fastened my props (or what was left of them) the nuts were locked pretty strong. Also I am using nylon locked nuts. Since I have seen pretty weird things happen to materials in cold I can not remove the chance of the problem being a loose prop.
For extra info, it was -8C outside.
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Permalink Reply by Drone Savant on
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You may want to read about "Stability Patch Induced Crashes" based on your "quad-copter just went up" statement (coupled with mentions of vibrations).
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/drones-discuss/y4M2sFlGOSI
one user on my Twitter feed phrased it as follows "they have a nice feature, if its unstable it puts the throttle at 50%".
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Permalink Reply by Crashpilot1000 on
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In that case my analysis was probably wrong. But on my little gaui with cheapo 8 Inch props i had one turning free at start in the cold (not -8! perhaps -1 or so), though i def. controlled all screws at home just that very flight before (i do it every 10 flights, regulary, except i hear noise or have other problems, i use those self locking nuts to secure the props). I didn't come across that problem with apc and graupner, but i don't fly at -8degree ...
Anyway Drone Savants hint with the "Stability Patch Induced Crashes" seems to be serious!
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Permalink Reply by Markus Järve on
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Drone savant's comment seems not to be the case here, since I had stable flights without remote the same day and also the day before.Even the wind was really nice and quiet.
The tests that I did Day before were quite nice except the balance problem that made copter flip after 3 autonomous flights. The day I did the logs was after I balanced the quad. If there would be the code problem that Drone Savant implied to, wouldn't it have showed when I did liftoff that was really Unstable for multiple tests (liftoff at 45 degrees or more and stabilization kicking in after 3meters of height or about 1-2s)
The more I think about this crash the weirder it gets...
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