Want to purchase fully functional UAV
I would like to purchase a fully functional UAV. I would prefer to buy a used one to get started but would entertain quotes for someone to build me one.
Here are the specs.
Payload Weight up to 15 kilograms
Pay Load form factor of 37 cm width x 37 cm length x 10 cm depth.
The payload should be mountable on the underside of the UAV and support a depth of 10 cm.
The UAV must also support an onboard IP based camera.
Regards,
Rob
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Permalink Reply by Ryan on -
Not for a 15kg payload! I know that for a fact unless you go to AAI Shadow 200 but good luck getting that for less than $250K just for the plane and the Portable GCS
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Permalink Reply by Ryan on
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You could just put your payload on a Cessna 172 for around $200/hr as well...that's a serious consideration!
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ModeratorPermalink Reply by Gary Mortimer on -
Oh you mean an OPV then Stik ;-) I believe the national guard are trialling that method as well as the DA42's that are being made for the job. Gets around the whole regulation thing.
Robert, this might all sound harsh but your requirements are a big ask for a DIY community!!
If your in the USA I think the first weight you might be allowed to operate is upto 2lbs all up weight and even then it will be a big if and not commercially. Again somebody will know the number.
I know the regs in RSA and UK somewhat better and things are quite straightforward upto 7KG airframe AUW then next bracket slightly harder to 20 KG then above that don't really bother trying unless you wear uniforms and sometimes get to shout at lots of people in lines and use sticks that go bang.
Before looking for an airframe you should find out how the regulations will affect you in your country or more especially the country you intend operating.
UAS do not fall under the banner of model aircraft. Do not make that schoolboy error.
The airframe along with autopilot will need Ops manuals Flight manuals and the pilot some sort of certification. Risk assessments all around and
Stik is bang on right, hang your sensor package under an Ultralight, maybe that's what you do already?
Sorry for such a negative post, reduce your payload weight and suggest a flight time and everyone will start talking.
G
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Permalink Reply by Ryan on -
gary I get to do that...well I get shouted at alot and to lowly to do any shouting and it still isn't easy to fly large autonamous aircraft....apparently it wouldn't look good if my aeroplane went down the intake off one of theres....I dont see a problem as theres are all grounded from the end of this months....
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Permalink Reply by Ios on -
Hi Robert,
Have I got a deal for you! I'm going overseas in a few months, and I just happen to have a used UAV which would meet your requirements. I was planning to put it into storage since I can't take it with me, but hey, maybe it can be put to good use!! You'll need to put a few hours of work into it to make it airworthy again as it is currently stored in it's transport crate - nothing too difficult, things like setting up the engine, servos, and installing verious things. The autopilot requires some re-export paperwork to be completed which can take a couple of months, or I can hook you up with the supplier if you're in the U.S..
This is a real UAV, and certainly not for a beginner.
With the exception of the autopilot, I can ship everything immediately!! The entire package, including airframe, autopilot, camera system, transmitters, receivers, GCS, etc, etc,... $35000 - PM me if seriously interested.
All the best in your endeavors.
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Permalink Reply by Brian Grant on -
Robert,
Can't help you with your current problem.
Guys above know alot more then i do about the technical stuff.
Maybe you can help me, especially if you find what you are looking for.
I am a private pilot with an instrument rating, working on my commercial cert now.
I have flown RC planes for a few yrs.
I am enrolled to take a UAV traning course in 2 months.
I am looking to become a UAV/UAS pilot and I don't want to join the military to do so.
As mentioned before, FAA will have issues with what you want to do.
But i do think that having a private pilot lic is a minimum, AOPA is seeing to that.
If getting clearence isn't a problem for you, could you help me further my career goal.
You've got to have a pilot and i have to start somewhere.
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Permalink Reply by Robert Bruder on -
Brian,
Add me as a friend and PM me and we can discuss this further. Please understand that there is a limit to what I can and cannot divulge.
Regards,
Rob Bruder
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Permalink Reply by Brian Grant on
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I have added you to my friends.
Please advise.
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Permalink Reply by Robert Bruder on
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Los,
I have added you as a friend. I will PM you as soon as you add me.
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Permalink Reply by Miles on
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Robert,
I would be very cautious with any offer of a cheap UAV or anything in the 100 - 250k price range, that carries the payload you are looking for. The reality is UAS of this capability as explained to you are VERY expensive and there is very good reason for this: the R & D can be month to years, the subcomponents can cost more than gold in wieght and of course you want reliability and that my friend means money and no one is going to give you a UAV/RPV for cheap after that. Because even if you put all the components together and they work for the first flight does not mean it will work the same the second flight, because all the bugs haven't been ironed out. Again be cautious of anyone/company who says they can build you a UAV/RPV for 100k (there are a couple here I won't say in the open) that will take your money and run (I was there!!!) The cessna idea is a great one or if you do decide to go the UAV/RPV route, go to a very well known company for lease or buy options.
The payload you require means very few companies can provide that capability and would not provide the capability with a full GCS + UAS config (you might get a RPV) but again unproven. I have no idea of your payload but I guess it would be expensive and the last thing you want is, some fly by night operator throwing your payload on board untested airframe and finding the UAS/RPV heads for the deck. Trust me I have seen many UAS/RPV blow to a million pieces by the best.
Oh and very little has been said about ITAR and it is serious and should be very cautious. There is not just some re-export paperwork to fill out. A proven fully functional UAS with video and data links is complicated to export and will not be 250k unless its junk!!
Final words be very careful and do your background checks!!! I would be happy to give you a list of reliable companies who can back it up with military utility assessments: hence proven UAS/RPV. PM if you would like some guidance.
All the best and be CAREFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Permalink Reply by Ryan on
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I just want to say a few simple things from experience:
1. Building a UAV is one thing, building a UAV that can operate reliably day in, day out is an entirely different thing.
2. Going from a few test flying hours to operating in field conditions for 1000's of hours mean the different between $50K UAV and a $250K UAV. There are so many things that will fail, you can never imagine!
3. Flying a model airplane, home build UAV, and flight simulator to operating a UAV safely, time after time, and flight after flight in trying conditions (weather, failures, etc...) is what separate the men from the boys.
So with that in mind you can make judgement as to how serious do you want to work your project.
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