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Graham Dyer left a comment for Robert Dielenberg
"Hi Robert, sorry about the loss of the plane, I also had a fatal crash a few weeks back although my problem was Rx based as I wasn't using the Ardu at the time. I have had problems too in the past with altitude hold even with the electric…"
Nov 7, 2011
Robert Dielenberg left a comment for Graham Dyer
"Hi Graham, we're developing a UAV here in Newcastle, Australia. We've been experimenting with the ardupilot 2_7_1 for a few months. Having huge problems with altitude hold and throttle. We're using a petrol engine. We realize the…"
Nov 7, 2011
Robert Dielenberg posted a status
"Testing the ArduPilot. Found some bugs. Will update shortly."
Oct 1, 2011
Robert Dielenberg commented on Robert Dielenberg's blog post MVVS 26cc in-flight starter motor
"I'm not sure of the work you do in UAVs but one problem a small company faces is how to get the biggest bang for buck. Scaneagle is beyond our financial means. Pneumatic launch system for example. Also Scaneagle doesn't do high resolution…"
Jul 11, 2011
MarcS commented on Robert Dielenberg's blog post MVVS 26cc in-flight starter motor
"Just as a link, some time ago, but still interesting esp. regarding engine mount: http://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/scaneagle-video  And the scaneagle carrys cameras, as do other gas powered UAV´s. Don´t get me wrong, I like the…"
Jul 11, 2011
Robert Dielenberg commented on Robert Dielenberg's blog post MVVS 26cc in-flight starter motor
"Paul Mather got it right. The key reason for stopping the engine is to get clear photos. We've been trying every which way, and it's the only viable solution in a small UAV which needs to cover long distances (hence electric is out). All…"
Jul 11, 2011
MarcS commented on Robert Dielenberg's blog post MVVS 26cc in-flight starter motor
"Alex, the motor system Maynard Hill developed was increadible. It was the key to the atlantic crossing. Everything else would be obtainable today for a few 100$... There is many interesting reading about TAM and his previous projects on the net! He…"
Jul 11, 2011
Alex Lee commented on Robert Dielenberg's blog post MVVS 26cc in-flight starter motor
"here's the detail. Not sure if you want to tackle all of his methods, but some do look promising.. Like generator instead of battery.. http://www.progressiveengineer.com/profiles/maynardHill.htm"
Jul 11, 2011

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Paul Mather commented on Robert Dielenberg's blog post MVVS 26cc in-flight starter motor
"Alex, I think the reason for stopping and starting is to get good IMU data and clear photos...not to extend distance or flight time in this application."
Jul 11, 2011
Alex Lee commented on Robert Dielenberg's blog post MVVS 26cc in-flight starter motor
"Here's the article Link"
Jul 11, 2011
Alex Lee commented on Robert Dielenberg's blog post MVVS 26cc in-flight starter motor
"Didn't the fella who passed away a few weeks back use a super tuned carb in his plane that flew across the Atlantic? I'm sure he didn't stop and start the engine, he just used a better engine and carb. His plane wasn't that …"
Jul 11, 2011

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Paul Mather commented on Robert Dielenberg's blog post MVVS 26cc in-flight starter motor
"Cool, what about telemetry data? :) I'd be happy to add support to my GCS: http://code.google.com/p/happykillmore-gcs/"
Jul 11, 2011
Robert Dielenberg commented on Robert Dielenberg's blog post MVVS 26cc in-flight starter motor
"That's true. What we do is recalibrate the gyro using accelerometers. It's tricky, but we got reasonable results. To this you add GPS data and horizon data from the infrared horizon detector. So it's all about data fusion."
Jul 11, 2011

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Paul Mather commented on Robert Dielenberg's blog post MVVS 26cc in-flight starter motor
"I'm certainly no expert on electronic hardware...software is more my thing. But a gyro is a dead-reckoning system. So wouldn't 5 minutes of hellish shaking throw the dead reckoning off whack....and then when the motor's off everything…"
Jul 11, 2011
Robert Dielenberg commented on Robert Dielenberg's blog post MVVS 26cc in-flight starter motor
"Don't forget you have to couple the engine off scenario with good image taking. We've also had a lot of experience with gyros and vibration. Not good. But when the engine is off you get good gyro readings. Has anyone else flown an MVVS?…"
Jul 11, 2011

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Paul Mather commented on Robert Dielenberg's blog post MVVS 26cc in-flight starter motor
"I think their remote start system is really slick. There's clearly a market for that in the R/C world...AP R/C doesn't seem like the right place for it but what do I know?"
Jul 11, 2011

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At 1:37pm on November 7, 2011,
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Graham Dyer
said…
Hi Robert, sorry about the loss of the plane, I also had a fatal crash a few weeks back although my problem was Rx based as I wasn't using the Ardu at the time.

I have had problems too in the past with altitude hold even with the electric stuff as it seems altitude is controlled exclusively by throttle and no elevator trim. Their plane they developed on worked fine like that but many others don't.

Looking forward to your progress on the rewrite, it needs it badly.

regards

Graham

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MVVS 26cc in-flight starter motor

Posted on July 10, 2011 at 6:30pm 26 Comments

Check out our unique in-flight starter motor for the MVVS 26cc on a custom built Senior Telemaster.

The system is lightweight and robust. Works from a cold start. Works again and again... it is great for extreme long duration flights and vibration free (i.e., no image blur) video or stills while the engine is off. Also, for all those people struggling with gyro drift, you can get a good gyro fix when the engine is off as well.

 

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